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Re: My build of HMS Solebay.
« Reply #75 on: Sunday | 10. February 2013 | 16:56 hrs »
Hey Paul, very nice build you have there. Haven't built any battle ships yet but you might have inspire me to try one.  ^^^

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« Reply #76 on: Monday | 11. February 2013 | 18:58 hrs »
Well gents I have been to the Transport Museum at Glasgow riverside and took some very good photos of the Model HMS Finisterre and they have come out very good.   I will put them on to my flicker stream for other builders to view as the detail is very good and will help to build a great model.   I believe there is no place in this forum to put them unless some one can tell me were, as this is a builders model.  Paul

Here is the link   http://www.flickr.com/photos/92998762@N02/sets/72157632741849645/

If you like please leave your comments
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« Reply #77 on: Wednesday | 20. February 2013 | 17:57 hrs »
Well I have now just about completed the Q deck.   It was quiet a job to bond the side panel to the deck allowing for the over hang to be all one section.  Then to add the armour supports and then the air vent.  Think I did a good job. 

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« Reply #78 on: Wednesday | 20. February 2013 | 18:00 hrs »
Then bonded in the engine room Air vents with small grills for the intake.  Looks very impressive.
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« Reply #79 on: Wednesday | 20. February 2013 | 18:19 hrs »
So here is the ship now with all her decks in place.  So the next item on the build list is the funnel.  Not impressed with the funnel so hope Joe will give me some pointers, like did he cut out the shape first then bond and shape or did he bond and then cut and shape?   not sure my self need to think this item through.

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« Reply #80 on: Wednesday | 20. February 2013 | 18:26 hrs »
Had a look at the 4.5 guns and found there is no base to the outer shell of the turret.  Did you make your own base Joe?

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« Reply #81 on: Friday | 22. February 2013 | 11:13 hrs »
Hi Paul,   yes the funnel was a bit tricky, I trimmed both halves almost to the trim lines then placed a sheet of 300g silicon carbide paper (wet or dry paper) on a flat serface and rubbed the joint of each half intill I achieved a good fit then held them together with sellotape, then used a few spots of epoxy across the inside of the joint, when set removed the tape and applied body filler over the inside of the joint when set this makes the funnel rigid and strong then used the the same rubbing method for the joints, to rub a good flat base, and finally rubbed the out side with 600g wet paper to blend in the joints, I did 'nt worry too much about the inside as when painted black you don't see it.

The main turrets I think are originally meant to be bonded straight to the deck and be static I wanted to make mine turn so yes I did fit a base to them using 1 mm plasticard I placed the turrets on the card and drew round them trimmed the bases leaving the line in but before you bond them in place fit a 20mm x 2mm bolt through the base in the centre and hold it captive with epoxy over the head, now bond the base to the turrets and trim and sand to a good finish when painted you don't see the joint, you now have turrets with a pivot shaft,drill a hole in the deck and place a clearance washer between the deck and the turret so it turns freely, I then put a coil spring on the bolt under the deck followed by a nut, tighten to the right tension followed by a spare servo horn and another nut tightened on to the horn that's how I did it, of course you may have your own method.  anyway I hope this helps.
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« Reply #82 on: Friday | 22. February 2013 | 15:41 hrs »
Thanks for that Joe.  The idea I had was to cut away the surplus and leave about 5mm then bond the with evo stick. rub down the base till i got a smooth surface, cut the base open and fill with foam which will harden then buff down the edge that I left of 5mm until I get a smooth finish.  Then remove the tip and bond the the top of the funnel and then add the wire top screen and then do the outside items.   But like the idea of just using filler along the inside joint.  Paul.

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« Reply #83 on: Friday | 22. February 2013 | 19:56 hrs »
It also helps to use a little scrap plastic strip down each side of one half of the funnel maybe 2mm either side just to give a base for the other half to stick to.  That also adds a little strength at the join.

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« Reply #84 on: Saturday | 23. February 2013 | 13:43 hrs »
you beet me to it mike, i had the same answer um my sleeve..  ;D  ;D


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« Reply #85 on: Saturday | 23. February 2013 | 16:42 hrs »
It also gives a base for the filler to press down onto if there are any larger gaps so the filler doesnt push through at a later stage a little while after its been built.

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« Reply #86 on: Sunday | 24. February 2013 | 10:54 hrs »
Thanks for that. I have read the build instruction again and they too mention to use a 0.5mm strip to aid the bonding of the two halves.  So have made a start and will post photos and a few words on how I got on.   This is going to be fun !  I hope I don not make a mess of it.  Paul

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« Reply #87 on: Sunday | 24. February 2013 | 15:50 hrs »
Im sure you wont make a mess of it Paul but in any case remember to sand the halves on a flat surface in a circular motion with lots of water that way the sanding down process keeps it all at the same amount and give a very straight line.  If you then use the strip emthod any gaps are easily filled and sanded flat.  Its surprising how good the halves go together doing it this way.

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« Reply #88 on: Sunday | 24. February 2013 | 19:29 hrs »
Hi Paul Clive here first time. I am doing the same build. Saw your question re funnel, something I was about to do. I set to that evening carefully cut out two parts, sanded both parts on one foot square medium and fine sandpaper. Then glued a 2 mm piece of 0.5 on inside one half funnel let dry the glued two parts together. Then gently sanded with wet and dry medium and fine until join no longer felt. Looks good. Your photos and those of Joe have been a great help in my built, instructions with kit leave a lot to be desired. The built is a thoughtful challenge, especially that this is the first one I have tried to build, hence Cabin Boy (starting at the bottom) Almost constructed as much as you. Good luck with funnel

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« Reply #89 on: Sunday | 24. February 2013 | 23:10 hrs »
Well I have finished the funnel.  I took my time and looked at the two half's read the instruction again and then spotted the the cutting lines inside the vacuum mould of the Funnel.   If I had gone ahead and boned the two side together I would have had a very wide funnel and would have ruined the work I was about to start.  So I marked out the cut lines inside and out, cut away the excess material and using a stone granite chopping board with 800 wet and dry rubbed down each half till I reached the pencil lines I had marked on each half.  Then using 1200 wet and dry rubbed down till The lines were just about to be removed.  Using 0.5mm strips I cut the length of the funnel with a break at the bend in the funnel line I bonded these one to each side front on side side and rear on the other.    I then cut out only the top center of the funnel leaving the bottom to add strength to the structure while it bonded. The using masking tape reversed i held the to half's together and then using a glue flow pencil bonded the 0.5mm strips to the opposite side and pressed into the funnel with a 6 inch ruler.  Then using the 1200 wet and dry rubbed down the whole unit to remove the sharp edge of the joint and smooth out any gaps.  (Picture 1.)  Then using the same wet & dry paper rubbed down the base till the unit was flat and this removed the center section at the base as I rubbed down.  This ensured I had a good flat base.   The cut out the small funnel plat form and stuck to the side of the funnel at the correct height taken from the plans. (Picture 2.)  Using the same method above I cut and rubbed down the funnel top and then cut out the center section.  I used four strips of 0.50mm card cut 10mm long and 3mm wide.   Turned the funnel top on its head and bonded then two to each side to support the funnel top to the funnel its self.  By placing two waste sections of card 0.5mm laid on the top of the funnel (the kept the top section clear of the funnel at the same distance while I bonded the four support struts.   Being 0.5mm meant they could be bent and boned to the inside of the funnel not the top edge.