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General Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Herman-the-German on 17 February 2021, 22:39:48

Title: Armed Tramp Steamer
Post by: Herman-the-German on 17 February 2021, 22:39:48

I found a model of an armed Tramp Steamer in the Internet.
Would this be a possible configuration for a Ship like this or would this be unrealistic ? I would be use Deans Marine Melanie. Here is the Link
https://www.seadoggamestudios.com/products/tramp-steamer-armed-transport
Regards from Germany
Tobi

Title: Re: Armed Tramp Steamer
Post by: colin on 18 February 2021, 05:35:47

This is what I would call a Liberty ship...  I thought you were looking for a mistery ship (Q)

Deansmarine do a kit...
http://deansmarine.co.uk/shop/product_info.php/cPath/10_20/products_id/373

But I am sure that the Melanie would make a fine basis for a liberty ship..

Title: Re: Armed Tramp Steamer
Post by: Herman-the-German on 18 February 2021, 06:25:46

Hi Colin
Yes i Look for a q-ship because an armed Tramp Steamer , during my search there i found  this heavy armed Version, and it looked More interesting with this many guns then a q-ship, but not so realistic....

Title: Re: Armed Tramp Steamer
Post by: rondean on 18 February 2021, 13:46:21

Hi
Some pictures of the only photos of real Q ships
 Barolong the most famous of these
one German one English
are about Melanie size
hope these help
 Ron

Title: Re: Armed Tramp Steamer
Post by: Pegasus on 18 February 2021, 17:34:17

One English ! dont you mean British HMS President moored in London was formerly HMS Saxifrage, a Flower-class sloop used as a Q ship in WW 1

Title: Re: Armed Tramp Steamer
Post by: Herman-the-German on 18 February 2021, 18:37:22

Many thx here too ! It it is Great that you help me with my Project ! Ron ,I read your Post in Model-Boat-Mayhem Thank you !
Great Forum here and there ! So i Hope i can Start my Projects soon.
And them i can Look for my next Deans Kit  :)
Take Care and stay healthy
Regards from Germany
Tobi
Please appologize my Grammar  :D

Title: Re: Armed Tramp Steamer
Post by: Pegasus on 18 February 2021, 19:34:58

If you search the web there are some good photographs and a couple of books on the subject. Two deans kits would be ideal for conversion to a Q Ship Melanie as you have stated but there is also Cordene

Title: Re: Armed Tramp Steamer
Post by: Herman-the-German on 18 February 2021, 20:04:36

I don‘t find out so Right now what there are the Great difference..
With my bad english i understood that would converted for civilian use, i found Infos that in „newer“ Versions of this Ship the Bridge would be changed.
Regards
Tobi

Title: Re: Armed Tramp Steamer
Post by: Herman-the-German on 19 February 2021, 13:27:43

If think Melanie und Cordene look such as same m :-[

Title: Re: Armed Tramp Steamer
Post by: Pegasus on 19 February 2021, 13:50:48

The Royal Navy converted nine Q ships here's the list
610-ton HMS Chatsgrove (X85) ex-Royal Navy P-class sloop PC-74 built 1918
5,072-ton HMS Maunder (X28) ex-King Gruffyd built 1919
4,443-ton HMS Prunella (X02) ex-Cape Howe built 1930
5,119-ton HMS Lambridge (X15) ex-Botlea built 1917
4,702-ton HMS Edgehill (X39) ex-Willamette Valley built 1928
5,945-ton HMS Brutus (X96) ex-City of Durban built 1921
4,398-ton HMS Cyprus (X44) ex-Cape Sable built 1936
1,030-ton HMS Looe (X63) ex-Beauty built 1924
1,090-ton HMS Antoine (X72) ex-Orchy built 1930

Title: Re: Armed Tramp Steamer
Post by: Pegasus on 19 February 2021, 14:46:05

Hms Edgehill before conversion

Title: Re: Armed Tramp Steamer
Post by: Pegasus on 19 February 2021, 14:47:18

HMS Maunder before conversion

Title: Re: Armed Tramp Steamer
Post by: Herman-the-German on 20 February 2021, 09:26:48

Thank for the pics
I just ordered three books about q-ships (all WW1) but i think there i would find some Good ideas and Infos about all armament and Equipment.
Regards from Germany
Tobi