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Title: Oulton Lady
Post by: MimmoC on 17 November 2016, 08:26:44
First of all thanks for accepting me.
Months from purchase through referent Italian D.Marine kit,the Oulton is the first model but i find other docoments.
Sorry but i do speak much  English,i elp me with a translator
thanks
Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: MimmoC on 18 November 2016, 07:12:35
Work start

Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: swiftdoc on 18 November 2016, 10:34:11
Ciao MimmoC,

benvenuto al forum di Deans Marine! Grazie per le foto di questa bella nave. Se vuoi posso aiutarti un pò con la traduzione perché il traduttore google ha fatto tanti errori.

Hai scelto una batteria lipo per la motorizzazione?

Tanti saluti

Arno

English: Hi MimmoC, welcome to the Deans Marine forum. Thanks for the pics of that beautiful ship. If you want I might help you a little bit with the translation as the google translator has made many errors. Did you choose a lipo battery for motorization? Regards Arno
Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: MimmoC on 19 November 2016, 10:33:01
Ciao e grazie, speravo nel traduttore ma....ho fatto un gran pasticcio.
La Batteria è una  lipo Zippy 4000 2s 40c ,il regolatore è un Quicrun WP-1060-Brushe per motori a spazzole 60/360A Waterproof 2-3S lipo,mentre come motore ho un Mabuchi 450 7.6 v.
Alla prossima

Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: swiftdoc on 19 November 2016, 15:09:08
In English: Hi and thanks, I trusted in the translator but...I got into a big mess. The battery is a lipo Zippy 4000 2s 40c, the ESC is a Quirun WP-1060-brushed for brushed motors 60/30 A waterproof 2-3S lipo, whereas the motor is a Mabuchi 450 7.6 V.
Regards
Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: klz on 22 December 2016, 18:49:49
Hi MimmoC how is the build going I have been tempted to try this kit myself, I am very interested on how you get on...update please  :)
Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: swiftdoc on 23 December 2016, 07:10:16
In Italiano: Ciao MimmoC, c'è qualche novità del tuo kit? Forse vorrei costruire questo kit per me. Sono molto interessato si sapere il tuo progresso. Dammi qualche informazioni per favore.
Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: MimmoC on 23 December 2016, 17:42:41
Rieccomi con qualche progresso

Sistemazione definitiva motorizzazione


Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: swiftdoc on 24 December 2016, 07:15:31
In English: I am back with some progress. Final assembly of motorization done.
@MimmoC: Usi una molla per giunta del motore? / Do you use a spring as motor coupling?

Buon natale e felice anno nuovo / Merry Christmas and a happy New Year

Arno
Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: MimmoC on 24 December 2016, 11:29:06
Grazie per gli auguri che ricambio sentitamente.

Purtroppo l'asse elica / motore sono collegati con un giunto a molla,dato lo spazio fra i due pezzi non ho potuto mettere quello senza molla perché era corto.





Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: swiftdoc on 24 December 2016, 13:10:30
In English: Thanks for the good wishes which I return heartily. Unfortunately the propshaft/motor are joined by a spring coupling, as the space in between the two pieces was too narrow to make a linkage without a spring.
Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: klz on 26 December 2016, 12:59:00
Thank you for the update it's coming along nicely how do you rate the kit? Would you recommend it to a beginner?

Also thank you swiftdoc for the translation.
Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: swiftdoc on 27 December 2016, 08:06:21
Italiano: Grazie per le informazioni. Mi piace il tuo progresso. Raccomandi questo kit per un principiante?
Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: colin on 28 December 2016, 06:09:13
Hi, if you would like my opinion, even though I have not Built this model yet, I would say yes, and recommend it to the beginners..  :)  ^^^
Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: MimmoC on 29 December 2016, 17:11:49
Il kit, secondo me,è indicato sia per principianti che  esperti,lineare nella costruzione ma semplice.
Io ho fatto qualche piccolo cambiamento

Ponte: rivestito con listelli chiari e leggermente scuriti.Messo rinforzo con quadrello 5x5
             Sistemazione alloggiamento cabina ed aumentata apertura ponte scafo.
Cabina: rivestita con listelli mogano,ed applicato rinforzi con quadretto agli angoli
               
Ci risentiamo il prossimo anno,auguri a tutti e tanto buon modellismo





Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: swiftdoc on 29 December 2016, 18:05:37
English: The kit can be recommended as well for beginners as for experts in my opinion, straightforward construction but easy to build.
I have made some minor changes to the kit.

Bridge: covered with light trims slightly darkened. Reinforced with square 5x5 cabin opening and bigger hatch to the hull.
Cabin: planked with mahogany strips and reinforced with square strips at angles.

We will keep in touch next year, all the best to all of you and lots of scale modelling.
Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: MimmoC on 02 January 2017, 10:56:11
Ancora qualche piccolo passo
Colorato cornici finestre (Vernice Tamiya Acrilic)  e loro applicazione sulla cabina (I vetri li metterò alla fine dopo aver dato uno strato leggero di resina epoxi  per ripararla dall'acqua)

Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: swiftdoc on 02 January 2017, 12:26:40
English: Some more small steps. Coloured the window frames (Tamiya Acrylic paint) and fixed them at the cabin (The windows will be glued inside after having applied a thin layer of epoxi resin to make them waterproof).
Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: MimmoC on 04 January 2017, 09:27:48
Buon giorno,
ho bisogno, se possibile, di un consiglio.
Allo scafo devo dare una mano di Primer su tutta la superficie ?
L'opera viva di che colore potrei farla?
L'opera morta la faccio bianca come da istruzioni perchè mi sembra più elegante
Grazie
Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: swiftdoc on 04 January 2017, 10:58:16
English: Hi all, I need, if possible, an advice.
Do I have to paint a layer of primer at the complete hull? Which colour may I choose for the area under the waterline? Above waterline I will choose white as the instructions say which is more elegant.
Thanks
Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: colin on 04 January 2017, 11:46:10
so far I have never covered my models with primer..!
I clean the hulls with an abrasive cleaner, for example Jiff or what's called "Sugar Soap"
then I give them a rub down with fine sandpaper (emery cloth) some were between 180 to 220 grit.
then clean the dust off and other bits with a type of paint thinner
then I paint them with Humbrol No. 70 (RAL 3009) (Revel 37)
straight out of the tin with a brush.. hand painted..

some people go for the lighter shades of Red, I prefer the darker shades..
hope this helps
Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: swiftdoc on 04 January 2017, 14:39:03
Italiano: Non ho mai usato un primer per i mei modelli..!
Pulisco lo scafo con un detergente abrasivo, per esempio Jiff o "Sugar Soap".
Poi uso una carta abrasiva di grado 180 a 220. Dopo rimuovo il polvere con un tipo di diluizione per colori.
Poi uso colore Humbrol No. 70 (RAL 3009) (Revell 37) con un pennello .. fatto a mano...
Preferisco rosso scuro per lo scafo, altri preferiscono rosso chiaro.
Spero che sia un aiuto per te.

@ MimmoC: Personalmente uso sempre un primer. Mi sembra essere piu facile di applicare il colore dopo (uso un airbrush). Ho visto modelli di Colin: lui è un maestro con il pennello, io no.

@ Colin in English: For myself I always use primer. It seems to be easier to apply the paint for me (I use an airbrush). I have seen some models built by Colin: he is a master of arts with a brush, not me.
Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: MimmoC on 05 January 2017, 04:18:08
Grazie per i consigli,farò tesoro e metterò in pratica.
Come colori io uso gli acrilici della Tamiya e spero vadano bene,come rosso anche io preferisco colori un po' scuri,quindi aggiungerò un po' di nero.
Oggi continuo con la cabina, metto le porte ed i vetri ricavati da delle lastre per radiografia.
A risentirci e grazie ancora.

Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: swiftdoc on 05 January 2017, 07:37:17
English: Thanks for your advice, I will follow and put into practice.
As colours I use acrylics by Tamiya and hope they will work well, as red I prefer colours with a darker shade, so will add some black. Today I will continue with the cabin, install the doors and the laser cut windows.
We will stay in contact and thanks again.
Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: MimmoC on 06 January 2017, 07:17:20
Come anticipato allego le foto di prima e dopo la modifica fatta
- prima immagine con baglio centrale
- seconda immagine eliminato baglio parte centrale 
- mobiletto comandi con timone da colorare
- poppa :aumentato spazio pozzetto  timone
Alla prossima
Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: swiftdoc on 06 January 2017, 09:47:27
English:As announced I enclose the pics before and after the modification made
-first pic with central hatch opening
-second pic central hatch beam removed
-control locker with steering-wheel to be painted
-stern: augmented opening for rudder

Until next time
Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: MimmoC on 07 February 2017, 11:48:45
Buon giorno a tutti,
un piccolo dubbio:linea galleggiamento.Potete dirmi quale devo prendere fra le tre del disegno?
grazie
 
Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: swiftdoc on 07 February 2017, 12:17:19
English: Hi all, a little doubt: waterline. Can you tell me which one of the three lines shown at the plan I have to choose? Thanks.
@Mimmo: Anch'io ho avuto questo problema con qualche kit. Ho scelto la linea media con modello in vasco da bagno.
In English: I came across that problem with several kits as well. I have always chosen the line in the middle regarding the model in the bath tub.
Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: colin on 07 February 2017, 13:01:15
There should be a blue or black line that goes the hole length of the model and protrudes beyond the stern an bow, with little lines at the bow and stern outside of the model... this might even be marked LWL
That would be the waterline..
Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: swiftdoc on 07 February 2017, 14:55:44
Italiano: Deve essere una linea blu o nera per il lungo del modello che sporge alla poppa e la prora, con linee piccole alla prora e la poppa ... probabilmente seganto "LWL". Questa sarebbe la linea galleggiamento.
Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: MimmoC on 14 February 2017, 09:25:58
Grazie per i consigli,ho messo la barca in acqua e la linea si avvicina a quella mediana del disegno,quindi ho iniziato a tracciare e foderarla per la verniciatura a pennello.
Ho visto, non ricordo dove,che il ponte è quasi grigiastro,cosa mi consigliate per farlo?
Grazie
Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: swiftdoc on 14 February 2017, 10:54:37
In English: Thank you for your suggestions, I have put the model into the water and the line comes close to the one in the middle of the plan, so I have marked this one beginning the paint job with a brush.
I have seen, cannot remember where, that the deck colour is greyish, can you make any suggestions?
Thank you
Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: MimmoC on 16 February 2017, 07:54:48
Ho forse sbagliato pennello?  Forse il colore (rosso mattone) non è fluido? 
Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: swiftdoc on 16 February 2017, 09:37:07
In English: Did I use the wrong  brush? Maybe the paint (flat red) was not fluid?

@Mimmo Hai usato un detergente abrasivo prima? Normalmente i colori Tamiya Arylic vanno bene con  pennello.
English: Did you apply an abrasive cleaner first? Usually the Tamiya acrylic paints work well with a brush.
Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: MimmoC on 17 February 2017, 18:25:09
Ciao, ho solo lavato lo scafo con un sapone delicato. Ieri ho preso altra vernice pronta per essere applicata e  l'ho passata su quella data prima (Tamiya), sono apparse delle ombre nere,mentre quella Avorio che ho dato sul tetto della cabina è perfetta. Mistero.
Alla prossima con le immagini
Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: swiftdoc on 17 February 2017, 18:59:31
English: I only cleaned the hull with a delicate soap. Yesterday I have used a different paint ready for use and applied it over the first one (Tamiya), black shades appeared, whilst the ivory applied to the roof of the cabin is perfect. Mystery. Until next time with pics.

@Mimmo: il problema è la cera della produzione sullo scafo. Devi usare un detergente forte e abrasivo prima della vernice. Sarebbe meglio di eliminare la vernice e ricominciare dopo aver applicato il detergente. Il materiale della cabina è diversa e senza cera, quindi perfetto anche senza detergente.
English: The problem is the wax on the hull from its production. You should use a strong and abrasive detergent before painting. It would be better to remove the paint and redo it after having applied the detergent. The material of the cabin is different without wax, so perfect even without detergent.
Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: MimmoC on 19 February 2017, 08:14:54
Ok, provo con un detergente più forte,però con cosa posso togliere la vernice? non vorrei danneggiare lo scafo
Grazie per la pazienza e buona domenica
Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: swiftdoc on 19 February 2017, 09:11:59
English: OK, I will,try a stronger detergent, but how can I remove the paint? I do not want to damage the hull. Thanks for your patience and have a nice sunday.
@Mimmo: Devi usare carta abrasiva per togliere la vernice (prima tipo 180 e poi 240 o più). Buona fortuna !
You have to use abrasive paper (first 180 type and later 240 or higher). Good luck!
Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: MimmoC on 20 February 2017, 11:09:43
Ieri ho grattato tutta la vernice, ho passato la carta 180 e 240 e stamane .......................
Appena si asciuga bene passo alle piccole rifiniture.
Grazie per la dritta ,purtroppo è un materiale nuovo e farò tesoro quando inizierò la Peter Boele
Title: Re: Oulton Lady
Post by: swiftdoc on 20 February 2017, 11:40:28
English: Yesterday I sanded off all the paint, I used abrasive paper 180 and 240 and this morning............
When it has dried well I will do some minor retouching work.
Thanks for the hints, unfortunately it was a new material for me and I will benefit from this when I will begin the 'Peter Boele'.

@Mimmo:  ^^^ ^^^ ^^^