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General Discussion => Customers Builds => Topic started by: swiftdoc on 18 March 2014, 06:56:34
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I started the build of my E.S.F. Surveyor last weekend. It is the first kit with laser cut parts I build. The laser cut parts speed up the process of cutting a lot.
I installed a bow thruster made by Raboesch. The balloon is for protecting the flange of the motor from glue.
The quality of the hull is really superb. It is the best hull I have had so far. The two halves of the mould are exactly level and the surface is very neat.
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That's a nice looking hull Arno, I'll follow your build with even more interest as this is the first laser cut one I've seen, I'm interested to see how it fits together, as we all know you have to measure and remark the printed plasticards,. At 1:20 you'll have some good size fittings, I'm just thinking, a destroyer in 1:20 scale, imagine that. LOL. Joe
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I like the Port hole you have taken the photo off, as you know I like my port holes its part of the ships character.
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Hey Arno, been looking at this kit for a while. Will be following your build with great interest.
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I will add rivets made from the heads of small brass nails later but will keep the brass finish and use only satin clear varnish.
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CAPTION COMPETITION
...horrible storm in the Wash...superstructure blown off...lost parts of the running gear...Deans quality hull saved our souls...
P.S.: The Wash = area where the E.S.F. Surveyor was in service
The figures are made by CAP maquettes (France). I will paint them in dark blue as the original.
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Or they could be saying "Hurry up and get the decks on Arno, we're fed up with standing on this sanding block". Lol.
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You're probably right, Joe. I can hear them every night moaning about that in the cellar. ;D ;D ;D
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CAPTION COMPETITION: reminds me of a film.... The Italian Job; in the voice of Michael Cane " Your only supposed to blow the bloody doors off "
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I decided not to use the brackets that came with the kit for the proptubes but doubled up the skegs in that section. Later you will not see the tubes any more. I will use body filler for that when the epoxy has dried hard.
I have to admit that the idea was not mine as one of the Deans prototypes showed the same which I saw on the pics delivered with the kit. :)
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Hi Arno, following with interest, she looks a nice beamy boat, should be very stable , she is of particular interest to me as I worked for Halmatic, though not at the time she was built, I joined the company in 2005 when the firm I was working for (Camper & Nicholsons) closed down, and I worked on similar craft, Halmatic was taken over by BAE Systems and shortly after was moved to Portsmouth Dockyard till my retirement. Joe
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Hi Joe, glad to hear that you have some first hand knowledge. Unfortunately you cannot find any photos of the E.S.F. Surveyor on the internet. I have sent an email to the Eastern Sea Fisheries Joint Committee but they sent only a photo of the Three Counties, their current research vessel. Do you think the skegs were like mine on the original?
You are right: when I put the hull in my bath tub for cleaning she was very stable and will probably be able to take a lot of ballast.
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Having worked on similar vessels I'd say your skegs were spot on as you probably know the shafts were built into the skegs and the skegs were linked to the rudders, this arrangement enabled the vessel to sit on the bottom at low tide, many of these vessels were based in harbours that dried out at low water
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Thanks a lot, Joe. Looks very much like what I have done. I have made the rudder protection from a brass profile. Will post some pics later.
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as regards to photo,s of the orginal vessel . I suggest you have a word with Ron Dean .as i took some photo,s of the orginal vessel . and gave them to Ron . He may still have . If not i may have some hidden in the darkest corners of my workshop. among the spiders . I remember seeing her berthed at Sutton Bridge , A long time a go.
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Hi I am pleased that you had a reply from RON , I spoke to him on Thursday 24/04 . He told me that he had the pics. And would sort them out , and contact you. When i built the model for myself , I had the anchor/booms / all working, but i did not fit a bow thruster.I did not think it required one. This was about 15 years ago. Good luck with your build . I will follow it with interest .
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The pics arrived yesterday. Thanks a lot to cabinboy and Ron. The closeups will certainly be useful for the build. Regarding the amount of photos I will be scanning instead of modelling for quite a long time ;D ;D ;D. The original had the Effer crane which I bought at the Intermodellbau (it's in the Deans range). I did not know that before so that was a first interesting result. Maybe I will try to make the crane moveable.
Kind regards - Arno
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I have finished the skegs and made a trial fit. Sanding the endings was quite fiddly as there is only very little space. It took me hours until I was satisfied. Yesterday a lot of rain outside and some good rock music made things much easier ;D
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you don't look the rock music type of person Arno... :D :D :grin1: :grin1: :-[
very nice and tidy as always ^^^ ^^^
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But I am! Last week I went to a concert by Steve Hackett at Bochum (Genesis Revisited II). It was a great show. Sanding in my cellar listening to that music makes me feel lucky :)
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I fitted the motor mount today. At the ends and in the middle I used glassfibre-mat and laminated it with epoxy. The wood was sealed with epoxy. The motor couplings are made by Raboesch but I removed the flexible part and fixed rubber tube instead as I already did on my Dufresne and Muirneag build. A test run with installed motors was successful: the couplings are much more quiet than before.
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Very neat job Arno, the shafts look short ,you tend to forget the bit in the skeg, they look like Raboesch water proof shafts, I use them a lot, expensive but worth it, ^^^. Joe.
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Yes Joe, you are right. The shafts are the water proof ones by Raboesch. I used them on all of my Deans ships and never had any problem so far.
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Nice quality build there Arno, Like the nice clean looking interior, make the inside as good as the outside and there is quality and thought. Paul ^^^ ^^^
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I have bonded the decks and am lucky with the result. As it is a kit with laser cut parts I decided to finish that section before building the superstructure (usually I did not take that risk). The hatches werde pre-cut and fit perfectly - an advantage of the new laser technique.
The construction is asymmetric (thanks again to cabinboy and Ron for the pics of the real ship): deck is wide on starboard and narrow on portside, while the rear parts of the cabin are just different the other way round.
The superstructure will need only little sanding to give a snug fit to the deck ^^^
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hi swiftdoc build looking good, When i built my model ,I had ship yard drawings. During the build i thorught i had made an error . I thougth i had got the wheel house off set , until i checked the drawings . I now have a full head of grey hair . All the best cabinboy
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Nice Arno, she looks like she'll be a good sea keeper with that big hull, I've just acquired a 1:48 Envoy class war tug part started kit and will have to really start it again and renew some parts, but what a big hull. :). Joe
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I have finished the build of the wheelhouse and added some details to the bulwarks. At some areas of the deck the vertical parts of the bulwarks are linked by a horizontal bar. I have not glued those parts yet and will fix them after the paint job has been done. I will make them from 0.5 mm plastic scrap (a leftover from the Grampian Pride build).
Next step will be the construction of the roof.
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Coming along lovely Arno.
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Hey Arno, very neat build as always. ^^^ Was wondering how much of the kit is laser cut? Are the windows laser cut as well?
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Hi Dennis,
in the kit all parts are laser cut, except the parts for the roof, which are printed plastic. It was a great help that the windows werde already cut out. I will use cnc-cut window frames instead of the self adhesive ones that came with the kit. On the pics you cannot see them yet as they will be painted in silver separately.
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Does make it nice that the windows are already cut out, it always seem to be time consuming cutting windows. Look forward to seeing more of your build.
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I have now completed the roof. The life raft container frames are made from plastic profile as I thought the white metal frames that came with the kit would add too much weight on the top of the roof.
The trawl winch is ready for painting. The winch will be fixed on the deck and gives a nice fit for the wheelhouse on one side and the hatch cover on the other.
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Gentlemen,
Who can supply all necessary components and diagram to Radio Control these twin motor independently (tank drive) + Raboesch 108-001 Bowtrust + servo for the rudders?
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Hi Joseph,
you can find all necessary components at the Deans online shop. A diagram how to wire it up can be found in the instructions that come with the kit.
Hope this helps.
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You could also try Action Electonics which are now sold by the component shop.
They also have online diagrams of all sorts of control solutions etc.
http://www.action-electronics.co.uk/wd.php (http://www.action-electronics.co.uk/wd.php)
Whilst there isn't a diagram for the ESF there are a number of twin motors with Bow THruster solutions in the list such as Smit Rotterdam that might be of help.
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Here comes the latest update. I made the mast from carbon tubes instead of the resin parts that came with the kit. I wanted to make things as light as possible on the roof. The tubes were fixed with cyano first, then glued with epoxy and smoothed the joints with car filler.
The mast will carry a motorized radar and all the lamps and deck lights. It took me several hours to get the leads into the tubes >:D but finally it is the result that counts :)
The position and navigation lights are enlightened by mini bulbs; for the deck flood lights (5 on the main mast) I will use SMD LEDs.
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she is coming along very nice Arno.. ^^^ ^^^
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I used the resin deck lights that come with the kit and put SMD-LEDs inside. I drilled a hole into the clear resin parts and glued the LED in with epoxy. After having done the paint job I made the front glass from clear plastic scrap. I had to paint it three times with black as the light shone through. But at last it works perfectly well. The lights will be installed on the main mast later.
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Hi Arno
those lights are going to be very a nice feature, nicely done ^^^ ^^^
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Hi Joe,
thanks for your kind words! I like that part of the build very much. Having completed the hull and the superstructure adding all the details and fittings really brings life to the model. And the E.S.F. Surveyor has a lot of interesting details. My set of pics of the original is a great help and gives the opportunity to add some self-made bits.
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Here comes the latest update. The Effer crane is a kit of the Deans range made by Italeri (plastic kit). It is turnable (left-right and up and down, even the length telescope). At first I wanted to make it moveable by radio command but that is beyond my skill level.
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^^^ Very nice Arno, she is looking good.
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Some more pics after having done the paint job.....
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A great built Arno, she looks great and I just love the detail you have put on her. Well done a fine build. Very nice indeed. ^^^ :)
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i will join in with Paul... excellent job, well done Arno.. ^^^ ^^^
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Stunning build Arno, I always knew it was going to be and you didn't let me down. ^^^
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Hearing those nice words from you I really feel honoured ::DD I am very happy with the kit - all those details were the reason why I chose that build. @Joe: I am waiting for silicone tube I have ordered as I have to replace the carbonium tubes for the smoke generator. With the trial fit it worked with the tubes but now they do not really protrude well through the funnels. I have put the generator into the hull to keep the centre of gravity down. I will install the trawl booms, etc. after having solved that problem.
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yes I used silicon tubing on mine about half way up the funnel to give access for refuelling though the top of the funnel, I didn't want to have to derig every time, in fact the battery is charged externally so I rarely have to look inside,
keep up the good work Arno, I look forward to seeing her on the water. ^^^
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She is ready now for her maiden voyage ::DD
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Stunning build Arno very nicely finished, she'll look good on the water, don't forget the photos of the launch. ^^^
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I was not able to wait any longer.....as soon as the sun came out this afternoon we put her in the car and went to the pond. The result was very fine as you can see. She behaves very well although it was a bit windy for the first sea trials.
Everything works as it should. Manoeuvrebility is excellent. She nearly turns on the spot. @Joe: thanks for your compliments! the smoke unit works very well now but you cannot see the smoke on the pics as it was too much wind today.
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She looks grand on the water, yes the smoke is much better in calm conditions, but nice photos Arno. ^^^
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jup, must say, very nice boat she is.. :) congratulations Arno ^^^
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Well done Arno, looks very realistic on the water as if your looking at the real vessel. ^^^ ^^^
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I was able to do the first sail of a model boat after the Covid-19 lockdown. It felt somehow like a holiday. The E.S.F. Surveyor is a wonderful model and sails very well. The kit with all the detailling and the offset cabin was a pleasure to build and you will not see this model every day on your club pond.
Our pond is used as a swimming pool but after closure in the evening we are allowed to sail our boats with social distancing :smiley1:
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It still remains a very nice model Arno..
I too, was for the first time since lock down, down the lake in Gelsenkirchen last Sunday... took hms toutou for a sail..
Hope you and your family are keeping fit.. ^^^